Did you know that an eternally burning hellfire denies the cross?
Five simple questions:
1) Did Jesus pay the full penalty for our sins?
2) What would happen to us if Jesus did not pay the full penalty for our sins? We would be all lost!
3) Where did Jesus pay the penalty? At the cross!
4) Is the penalty for sin, death or eternal burning in hellfire?
5) If it is eternal torment:
Can you show me where Jesus paid that penalty? If the wages of sin is eternally burning in hellfire, then Jesus should be suffering when? Now! But the fact is Jesus died on a friday as the cross demonstates and He did not suffer eternally. Therefore, either He got a major discount or we are all lost or the wages of sin is not eternal suffering [torment]. Did he die? Oh yes! If that is what He paid, then that is what the wages of sin is - death (Rom. 6:23).
5) If it is eternal torment:
Can you show me where Jesus paid that penalty? If the wages of sin is eternally burning in hellfire, then Jesus should be suffering when? Now! But the fact is Jesus died on a friday as the cross demonstates and He did not suffer eternally. Therefore, either He got a major discount or we are all lost or the wages of sin is not eternal suffering [torment]. Did he die? Oh yes! If that is what He paid, then that is what the wages of sin is - death (Rom. 6:23).
A more expanded explanation:
Did Jesus pay the full penalty for our sins? If he did not pay the full penalty for our sins, what would happen to us? We would all be lost. Here is the big question - are the wages of sin, death or eternal torment? We know the answer (Rom 6:23). but what does our fellow Christians say? Eternal torment. Very well then, if the wages of sin is eternal torment, can you show me where Jesus paid that penalty? In other words, if Jesus paid the full penalty, and if the full penalty is eternal torment, then Jesus should be suffering when? Now. But the fact is, Jesus died on a Friday. So if Jesus paid the full penalty by his death, as the cross demonstrates, and he did not suffer eternally, then either he got a major discount, or we are all lost or wages of sin is not eternal torment.
So if you believe in the cross, all we are asking is tio show us where Jesus paid that penalty that you say is the wages of sin is - eternal torment. Did Jesus suffer infinitely? Yes he did. He suffered infinitely, but he did not suffer eternally. It was without measure? Yes. But it was not without measure of time. There is a difference; it hurts infinitely, but it did not hurt eternally. Do you get the difference? Jesus suffered infinitely, it was beyond measure and we cannot even fathom. But he did not suffer eternally. In fact the bible says in Isaiah 53 that the penalty of our transgression was laid upon him. So, He suffered what the wicked will suffer in the last days and Jesus did not suffer forever. Just show us where Jesus paid eternal torment and if Jesus did not pay it, then we are all lost or that’s not the wages of sin. Did Jesus die? Oh yeah he did. He paid that. And if that is what he paid, then that’s what the wages of sin is - death. (Source: Based on the Audio sermon titled, The Cross and the Three Angels Messages by Ivor Myers)
Did Jesus pay the full penalty for our sins? If he did not pay the full penalty for our sins, what would happen to us? We would all be lost. Here is the big question - are the wages of sin, death or eternal torment? We know the answer (Rom 6:23). but what does our fellow Christians say? Eternal torment. Very well then, if the wages of sin is eternal torment, can you show me where Jesus paid that penalty? In other words, if Jesus paid the full penalty, and if the full penalty is eternal torment, then Jesus should be suffering when? Now. But the fact is, Jesus died on a Friday. So if Jesus paid the full penalty by his death, as the cross demonstrates, and he did not suffer eternally, then either he got a major discount, or we are all lost or wages of sin is not eternal torment.
So if you believe in the cross, all we are asking is tio show us where Jesus paid that penalty that you say is the wages of sin is - eternal torment. Did Jesus suffer infinitely? Yes he did. He suffered infinitely, but he did not suffer eternally. It was without measure? Yes. But it was not without measure of time. There is a difference; it hurts infinitely, but it did not hurt eternally. Do you get the difference? Jesus suffered infinitely, it was beyond measure and we cannot even fathom. But he did not suffer eternally. In fact the bible says in Isaiah 53 that the penalty of our transgression was laid upon him. So, He suffered what the wicked will suffer in the last days and Jesus did not suffer forever. Just show us where Jesus paid eternal torment and if Jesus did not pay it, then we are all lost or that’s not the wages of sin. Did Jesus die? Oh yeah he did. He paid that. And if that is what he paid, then that’s what the wages of sin is - death. (Source: Based on the Audio sermon titled, The Cross and the Three Angels Messages by Ivor Myers)
But the Bible speaks of the wicked being tormented "forever," doesn't it?
The term "for ever," as used in the Bible, means simply a period of time, limited or unlimited. It is used 56 times in the Bible in connection with things that have already ended. It is like the word "tall," which means something different in describing men, trees, or mountains.
- In Jonah 2:6, "for ever" means "three days and nights." (See also Jonah 1:17.)
- In Deuteronomy 23:3, this means "10 generations."
- In the case of man, this means "as long as he lives" or "until death." (See 1 Samuel 1:22, 28; Exodus 21:6; Psalm 48:14.)
So the wicked will burn in the fire as long as they live, or until death. This fiery punishment for sin will vary according to the degree of sins for each individual, but after the punishment, the fire will go out. The teaching of eternal torment has done more to drive people to atheism and insanity than any other invention of the devil. It is slander upon the loving character of a tender, gracious heavenly Father and has done untold harm to the Christian cause. (S0urce: Helltruth)
Matthew 25:41 speaks of "everlasting fire" for the wicked. Does it go out?
Yes, according to the Bible, it does. We must let the Bible explain itself.
- Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting, or eternal, fire (Jude 7), and that fire turned them "into ashes" as a warning to "those that after should live ungodly," 2 Peter 2:6.
These cities are not burning today. The fire went out after everything was burned out. Likewise, everlasting fire will go out after it has turned the wicked to ashes (Malachi 4:3). The effects of the fire are everlasting, but not the burning itself.
Doesn't Matthew 25:46 say the wicked will receive "everlasting punishment"?
Notice the word is punishment, not punishing. Punishing would be continuous, while punishment is one act. The punishment of the wicked is death, and this death is everlasting. (Source: Helltruth)
Why does the Bible say that the wicked will be destroyed with unquenchable fire?
Unquenchable fire is fire that cannot be put out, but which goes out when it has turned everything to ashes. Jeremiah 17:27 says Jerusalem was to be destroyed with unquenchable fire, and in 2 Chronicles 36:19-21 the Bible says this fire burned the city "to fulfill the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah" and left it desolate. Yet we know this fire went out, because Jerusalem is not burning today.
To quench means to extinguish or put out. No one will be able to put out the fire of hell. That is the strange fire of God. No one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it. Isaiah says of that fire, "Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to sit before it" (Isaiah 47:14). After it has accomplished its work of destruction, that fire will go out. No one can deliver themselves from its flame by putting it out, but finally not a coal will be left. So say the Scriptures. (Helltruth)